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Andrew Greeley defines mystical experience as “a feeling of intense unity with the universe and of one’s place within that unity”. It is a feeling of unity with Nature, not God!

Sunday, 18 January 2004

It is interesting how your whole point contradicts itself.

You say this to begin your email but do not say what in particular you are criticising. As a matter of courtesy, I have put email hyperlinks on each page that automatically adds the address and title of the page subject to the reader’s comment, but you have not the gumption or good manners to use that facility, and speak about a “point” on a website that has 70 MB of files in it, including almost 300 text files of criticism of Christianity. I shall answer what you say as best I can, although I resent having to try to work out what you are talking about among all this.

You are telling your audience that no evidence means the bible is proof it is hyperbole or a lie.

You begin by illustrating what I have said. What are you talking about? What can this meaningless sentence be meant to mean? I give a large number of pages of argument criticising the bible, and you contrive to say that is “no evidence”.

That would then mean you are a liar. You have no proof the bible’s accounts are NOT trustworthy or didn’t happen, then then makes you the liar as well.

You are not reading the pages I wrote, my friend, or you cannot understand English

I am not surprised however since illogical philosophies always refute themselves. Take for example the statement, “There is no absolute truth”. Notice any problems with that statement?

Sure. Who wrote it? Are you giving a course in philosophy?

Your reasoning also defies common sense.

Which bit of reasoning, or do you mean all of it?

The commandments in the bible are morally correct, and only an evil person would deny that.

Which commandments? Since when did Christians follow any commandments? Christians contrive to believe that the Jewish scriptures are outmoded by the arrival in the flesh of the Christian God, and yet they have to be obeyed nevertheless. This contradiction allows Christians to do as they like, and in history they have done just that.

Since when is “Do not lie” “Do not murder” “Do not steal” and stoning people the things an untrustworthy person would come with? So the liars of the bible decided to say, “Do not lie” and talk about their people being punished over and over and being just about the worst people on earth you could be around unless you happened to find that incredibly small minority that understood how to get to heaven, because…

You are too clever for me here. It makes no sense to me. “Do not lie”, “Do not steal” etc, are commendable principles to live by, but the Christian churches never did. Christianity, as you seem to imply, is a lie from beginning to end. If someone expounds excellent principles and then ignores them in their own living, then they are lying. No Christian lives by the principles of their own God, and so they are liars. Mostly they justify their behaviour, becoming even bigger liars.

So when Jesus said it isn’t what is on the outside that makes you morally impure but what comes out of you, it was just an incrediblly deep thought that he had by accident while telling his other lies.

You are showing that you have not read the pages, mate. Go away and read them, then you might be able to criticize what I say, not the straw dolls you want to knock over. That too is a pathetic Christian ploy.

How is a lack of OLDER evidence for the bible proof it didn’t happen, Since when is a negative finding a proof? Can we please throw out evolution as well then, it has about 1 billions years of proof missing. As for the bible not meeting your implied standards, it is interesting a LACK of evedince in here and there ancient writings or in the desert sand is sufficient proof for you yet the ancient well copied bible is not evidence itself.

I just answered an email from a friend of yours making the same evolution point. It proves you are a dunce. The answers to your bible questions are all on the pages that you choose not to criticise specifically because they would make you look even more foolish. You make abstract assertions and try to defend them with nonsense. You try to make out that the absence of something is no proof it does not exist. You have to believe it because your own faith is based entirely on absence of proof. The fact of absence, is not that it is proof of this or that but that no one intelligent would believe in something for which there is no proof. I do not believe in Santa Claus but no doubt you do. Who should a disinterested reader believe? There is no evidence for a Santa Claus let alone proof, and so no one should believe he exists. Make the approprioate changes and apply it to Moses, God, Christ and everything else that you hold true. None of it is true, in the accepted meaning of the word, namely that it can be proven. Your scam is to use supernatural blackmail to make gullible people believe in what you allege is true. It is despicable. The bible is held to be the supernatural word of God when the sort of historical and textual analysis that I offer shows it is a collection of myths written with nefarious ends in mind.

Care to inform your readers on the relevancy of the impossiblity of evolution and where matter and energy came from. Care to inform your readers on how God didn’t flood the earth because you are not sure where the water went or how God an all powerful being did so. Care to state clearly that you don’t believe the bible because you love being immoral and don’t like God or that he isn’t talking to you in real time and explaining to you how he made the universe for your pleasure?

Don’t forget to mention the bible has more copies of itself then any other ancient historical document in existance and shown to be in the case of the new testament written within 100 decades of it having occurred unlike other ancient documents.

100 decades? You are again showing your ignorance, lack of intelligence and lack of principle. Christianity has been a scam for 2000 years and the books it pretends are the work of God are full of holes. That is doubtless why they are Holy books. Read the pages before you start spouting supposedly critical tripe. You are a typical Christian sheep, easily led and with an empty head.

I hope you can snap out of your profound ignorance, but I cannot expect that you will. Reading the pages, if you can, might help, but only if you try to understand them. That is the problem.



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