AW! Epistles
From Brady
Abstract
Sunday, 13 February 2005
Hey. I was just reading your “Christianity Revealed” website, and stumbled upon a couple things. You cite these:
- 2 Kings 4:32-37—A dead child is raised (well before the time of Jesus).
- Matthew 9:18-25, John 11:38-44—Two dead persons are raised (by Jesus himself).
- Acts 26:23—Jesus was the first to rise from the dead.
- Matthew 7:21—Not everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
- Acts 2:21, Romans 10:13—Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
- Acts—2:39 Those God calls to himself will be saved.
- Matthew 7:24, Luke 10:36-37, Romans 2:6, 13, James 2:24—We are justified by works, not by faith.
- John 3:16, Romans 3:20-26, Ephesians 2:8-9, Galatians 2:16—We are justified by faith, not by works.
As for the topic of resurrection, there is a difference between being raised, and rising. When a person is raised, an outside force does it. When you rise, you do it. That was the difference. You know there’s an obvious difference between raise and rise. I don’t need to tell you that. As many as have been raised from the dead, only one has risen, because he personally beat death.
Your distinction is too subtle for we unbelievers who have never seen anyone raised from the dead by anyone else let alone seen anyone raise themself from the dead. But granted that there could be such a distinction, you must be wrong about it. It revolves around the question of whether Jesus was wholly man or wholly God or something in between. The churches of the world have always held that Jesus was God incarnated as a man, and so He experienced the world precisely as a man did. If He had the power to do things like raise Himself from the dead, then He was not a man at all. He was always a god. He therefore could not have experienced the world with its sufferings as a man could. When He hung on the cross, He could have used His power to prevent His suffering or to make it tolerable. As always, Christians want it every which way, but the fact remains that any God who appeared on earth with any power at all was not a man. Men do not have the powers of gods, and unless Jesus was purely human in His incarnation, He could not have suffered like a man.
Jesus himself confirmed this, for example, when he said: “Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God (Mt 19:17)”. Jesus plainly distinguishes himself from God showing that the concoction of the early Church—the Trinity—is not something that Jesus believed. So, Jesus must have been raised like every one of the others. It is God who is seen as doing the raising in Judaeo-Christian mythology—“Whom God hath raised up”, (Acts 2:24). So you are being the typical Christian trickster to whom truth is whatever is convenient at the time.
As for calling on the name of the Lord, you have to understand what A is before you can compare A to B. The verse in Acts 2:21 talks about the last days because it starts in verse 17 saying, “And it shall come to pass in the last days…” So in other words, in the last days (as it has been since Jesus’ day) whosoever calls ON the name of the LORD shall be saved. CALLING on the name of the LORD indicates that you’re not face to face with him. So these details clearly show that it’s people praying to the Lord Jesus Christ to get on his side.
Now the people in Matthew are face to face with him on judgement day, indicated by Jesus saying, “then I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity”. So these are two different time frames: One time frame before the day of judgement. One time frame during that day. One is CALLING on the name of the LORD. One is saying, “Lord, Lord”. Biiiiiig difference.
Oh nooooooo, it isn’t! Jesus is addressing the crowd in Matthew in the Sermon on the Mount and he is telling them how they should behave in this life to be able to get a response from God in the next. Again your supposed explanation is pure sophistry meant to trick children and idiots, but which does not hold water on inspection. Christian liars do not expect anyone to examine what they are saying. They take it on trust because Christians have built up the biggest lie of all—that they are truthful. You prove they are not. That is absolutely plain in the same verse because only those that do God’s will can expect to get a response when they call upon God. It would be a bit late to be told this at the end of the world, as you maintain. The people are being told what to do now! Unless they do God’s will now, they can call on the name of God as much as they like and will get nowhere. All Christians in my experience are convinced they are saved, but cannot even read the book they call God’s word correctly. Instead of reading what God is supposed to have said, they find every excuse they can to claim he said something that suits them better. Don’t bother calling on the name of the Lord!
If call on his name (align with him) before the end, it’s all cool. For those who never aligned themselves with him, but got caught up in doing their own works, there’s no more chances.
Have you thought about what you are saying?
As for the Romans 2:6 passage, it says Jews are justified by works, because if they aren’t going to accept Jesus as the sacrifice, their only hope is to have perfect works.
Your effrontery is beyond belief. The passage is not about only Jews, but about all men, and Jews and gentiles are both mentioned specifically. You are a crook.
In James 2:24, it talks about Abraham following faith, and through faith manifesting works. “Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith alone”. Some people do works just for the sake of doing works, and have no faith. But some who have faith never act upon it. It takes both sides: the dynamic and the mechanic.
Are you a Christian or not? I can read what it says and I read often what Christians say. Christians believe that faith is sufficient, despite the words cited in these passages. James who is said to be God’s brother, accepting that Christians consider Jesus to be God, is categorical that faith without works is worthless. “Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works”, James 2:17-18 He even says that believing is worthless because even devils believe in God. Does any of this mean anything to you?
The writer of Acts says, “was not Ra-hab the harlot justified by works, when she had receive the messengers, and had sent them out another way?” She lived because she housed foreign spies. She housed foreign spies because she had faith. So Ra-hab was saved because she had faith and acted upon it. Hence, “We are justified by faith”. Simple simple. Way easier than calculus.
It certainly is, because making things up as you go along is bound to be easier than practising some discipline. Whether Rechab had faith or not, she helped the Israelites. That was a valuable deed to them. So she was saved from the fate of the others. Perhaps she knew she would be and was simply being opportunistic. You ASSUME, perhaps correctly, she had faith, but we KNOW she did the Israelites a good deed. You are desperate to make faith the essential point with your distortions of the text and your machinations with what are supposed to be holy words. You Christians are all hypocrites.
All this stuff is really quite a simple equation if you have a tender heart and it just requires a little common sense to understand. I encourage you to read at least a couple sentences before each passage you cite so that you might have at least SOME clue of what you’re talking about, and that you not mislead as many people unfamiliar with the Bible as most churches are doing today. It seems like you just flipped open a Bible, looked for verse which seemed contradictory on a quick glance, and just copied them onto your website. That’s probably not a good idea, if you have any integrity.
I repeat what I said above. Do you ever think about what you are saying? You are all so smug, you cannot be saved according to the criteria in the bible. Nothing is so simple that you can make it up as you go along except self-imagined fairy tales, precisely what most of you think Christianity is. You tell me to read a few sentences of the bible before any citation, yet you prove that you do not do it yourself and you expect no one reading or hearing what you say to do it. That is how you can say just as you like and pretend you are an exegete. You simply show you are a liar and a fraud. It is quite impossible to have a tender heart towards liars and frauds, and the man you call God described in the Christian gospels would have ranked you all with the smug Pharisees. Integrity is something most Christians just do not even understand let alone have. Your God told you to cast the beam out of your own eye before you offer to remove a mote from someone else’s. You do not even know what it means, and if you do, you must ignore it.
ps. your website seems more like a rant than a stack of empirical evidence (a plethora of slurs, and few references)
Well, it all depends how many references constitute empirical evidence. You have not read much of the website because you would otherwise know that there are a lot of sources referenced. This is just a false slur on your own part, and is typical of a Christian liar.
To have to speak to you like this is not pleasant, but Christians are such utter phonies and tricksters, and have created such a phobia in everyone of criticizing you all, that someone has to do it. You all say God is almighty but you belie your words by treating Him as if He were a fool. An Almighty knows what you are doing, even though you think that you can do just as you wish, so long as it is in His name. I suggest your own holy books tell you otherwise. You are a fraud and a liar on your own criteria, not on mine.
Best wishes for an improvement in your outlook and nature.
