AW! Epistles
Those who do not want to hear!
Abstract
Thursday, 01 January 2004
Some Christians like to make their usual points but will not accept a reply. Either the address is false or they contrive somehow to bounce it back as if unrecieved. Here are a few of these.
From: “Ronnie” mcotrell2@woh.rr.com
Hello, my name is Thomas. In response to your misinterpretation of Jesus’s generation not passing away before the kingdom of God was to come, I must say is a bit out of context. You see, Jesus was speaking to his disciples, and knew there would be future disciples (For he was God in man form and knew all things). The things he said would be DID NOT happen in his generation. Though he was speaking to his disciples, the message was for a latter generation and the generation of disciples that seen these particular events would not pass before the kingdom coming.
You sound quite young, so perhaps there is hope for you, Thomas, but not as long as you believe the words of old and erroneous books—not written by God but by ordinary fallible men! Anyway, I’ll assume that you are old enough to get straight amswers.
I am glad you recognize that Jesus could not have been a man and a God at the same time. Now, you say what we all know, that this prophecy DID NOT happen. In fact, it was a false prophecy, but you try to find an excuse. Jesus said to his disciples standing there before him that the generation they were all a part of would not pass away until all of these things were accomplished. He was addressing THEM, not anyone in the future. He spoke to them of “this” generation, not any future disciples, or whoever you think it should be. Today, 2000 years later, all of those things he spoke of have not been accomplished but that generation has passed away, long ago. You pretend, with nothing in the text to say it but only your own stubbornness, that the message was not for the disciples before him but for others thousands of years ahead. He is addressing particular disciples and addresses the prophecy to them. What he said was plainly wrong, and you only refuse to see it because you are a moral coward or a you cannot reason properly.
America as a nation did not exist at this time, so how can you think the gospel of the kingdom was published through out all the nations of the world? There are still parts of the world the gospel has not reached to this day.
I am reading the same bible as you, but I read the words that are there while you read what you want to see. Why do you think God cannot write what He means? Jesus says that this gospel shall be preached to all the world and then the end will come. First, the world he spoke of was the world he knew, not the world you know. Second, this is plainly an insertion by the later church because Jesus expected the end of the world “soon”, as all Christians have since, for 2000 years, including you. Moreover he says that anyone that endures to the end will be saved. This is the same as saying the end must come while the people he was addressing were still alive. No one endured long enough. They all died, and JC was wrong!
I think your problem is a lack of faith in the ALMIGHTY GOD.
Yours is too much faith in an ancient book that is obviously wrong. You are an idolater. You idolise a book. Watch out that the Almighty is not marking you for the hot place. Remember the gate to heaven is narrow, and the gate to hell broad. God created you with a brain. Try using it. Or do you think Satan provided you with that particular organ? You are persuaded by the rogues and charlatons that instruct you in these lies that God is a fool. Why would God give you a brain then tell you you have to believe without reasoning—without using it? Crooks and tricksters do that, not an almighty good God.
Perhaps you are looking for a reason or reasons to challenge the deity of Christ by calling him a liar, so you do not have to live holy, so you can do what ever you please and feel right about it.
I see people around me in the most prominent positions in the world who say they are devout Christians but have no compunction about whatever damage they do to real human beings in the world. They happily kill people that God made, according to the Christian view. I am a better Christian than they are. I have no desire to kill or cheat my fellow human beings. I am interested in Truth, not God’s Truth which means lies, as you prove.
Whatever your reason, I will pray for you that God might open your eyes to GOD’S TRUTH. I really do not care if you call me a fundamentalist, but I do care about your soul.
Yes, indeed. You Christians were so keen on saving people’s souls for hundreds of years that you slowly roasted them while they were tied to a tree and could not run away. It sometimes took them an hour to cook to death. That saved their souls, the Christian bishops said. It is far more cruel than crucifixion, but these people are forgotten by you lot, not made into gods. Your knowledge of history is selective. The Christian leader of the free world wants to rob oil from Arabs, dropping 10,000 pound bombs on them from seven miles up to persuade them not to resist, but happily supports a monster in Uzbekistan who even these days still cooks his enemies to death by frying them. Anyone who supports these things can only be a child of Satan. You can keep your Christianity. It is Satanic.
I could give you an answer about everything you wrote in your article, but I will not get in a debate with you over GOD’S word.
Now there’s a cop out, my friend. You start a discussion, but say you will not get in a debate. What a faith you have! You Christians always want to tell people what to do. You have no idea of reason, logic or democracy. It might seem odd to you and Christians like Blair and Bush, but making foreign people be democratic is not democracy! You will not get it, I’m sure.
There is no need for me to defend GOD’S word, it is true and will stand FOREVER.
I just showed it is not true, and there are many many more proofs that it is not, but you can read my pages to get them. I do not write pages of detailed answers to stupid Christian assertions or questions so that I have to repeat them individually.
You can except it or reject it, but I warn you, there are times coming that will make even you pray. THE BEGINNING OF SORROWS in which we are now living, as JESUS spoke of in Matthew 24: 4-8. September 11th, 2001 was a beginning of sorrow for many people. Think about it will you. GOD BLESS!
Speaking of the beginning of sorrows, Matthew wrote what Jesus was saying THEN! Jesus was addressing the same disciples and saying what THEY would experience. He ends his description of the apocalypse with the verses we have been talking about. Here they are in case you missed them:
So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
These sorrows and so on are “all these things” to be fulfilled—for that generation. Are you with it? I do not recall that Jesus or any other prophet mentioned September 11, but I would like to know why God would tell people about an apocalyptic event, then wait 2000 years before he allowed it to happen. You are not thinking. Jesus spoke about his own day. To imagine the Creator of the world came to earth 2000 years ago to tell people then about a disaster now is, frankly, insane! I give you my sincerest hope that you can snap out of it.
What is wrong with you people is that you cannot bear the thought of a world without you in it. But we all die, you included. So you all pray for the world to end in your own lifetime. So far, since Jesus, taking a generation to be 25 years, 80 successive lifetimes have passed by, with every Christian in them expecting the apocalypse “soon”. If it were not such a dangerous delusion, it would be laughable.
PS, in your other very short note with the subject “insanity”, you threatened me. I’ll ignore the threat because you recognize you are insane.
From: “Teri” ttllm@hotmail.com
You wrote telling me that I should know that there is a god who loves me and has a wonderful plan for my life. A few things puzzle me: How do you know this? How do you know there is a God? How do you know what God thinks or plans? How do you know that I do not have wonderful plans for my own life? Did God give us free will or not? If I have free will then why should God be making plans that I might not want to accept? Are you God?
No doubt there are many more questions but let us leave them for now. You then start offering me quotations from the bible but that poses more questions: How do you know that what this book says is true? How do you know that God sent his only son? How do you know that believing He did will give you eternal life? Why do you presume that I want eternal life?
Then you tell me that I must confess that I am a sinner, and my sin separates me from experiencing God’s love and plan for my life. Why should I confess to what I am not? How do you know whether I am a sinner or not?
Perhaps your answer is meant to be this quotation from Romans 3:23: “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”. So did God really not give everyone free will at all? Even if I and everyone else are sinners, God gave us free will to decide for ourselves, so why has He changed His mind, in your opinion? You also add another citation from Romans 6:23: “For the wages of is death”. Is this meant to be a punishment for doing what God allowed us to do, namely whatever we choose as He granted us free will? I thought God loved sinners, so why should my supposed sin separate me from God’s love and make Him want to punish me by killing me? It does not sound loving to me. Are you certain you have the right God?
Next you say that I must believe and receive Jesus Christ as my Savior and Lord to be able to experience and know God’s love. So God does not love sinners at all, despite what Christians say? They must be telling lies then when they say that God loves sinners. Does God only love liars? What is this Savior that you speak of? Why must I accept this savior as Lord when I have been made by God as a free man with no need to accept anyone as Lord over me? Do only people who say to God they do not want the free will He gave them and submit themselves to some other Lord get God’s love? You are telling me that God only loves people that love Him. God does not love people unconditionally, so He is not a God of love at all. That is not generous and is not God-like. You must be wrong about this. Have you been listening to Satan?
Now you cite Acts 16:31 that I must believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and I shall be saved. What will I be saved from? How do you know I want to be saved from it? How are you certain that this Lord Jesus Christ will be able to save me from whatever it is?
Citing John 14:6, you tell me that Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me”. This Jesus sounds a bit conceited to me, if he brags that he is the way and the truth and the light. I thought Jesus was a humble man who said that the first would be last. This statement makes him the last because it is so arrogant. You must be believing Satan. He is supposed to be the arrogant one.
Now you say again that I must confess and repent with a particular prayer: “Lord Jesus, I need You. I give myself to You and want to receive You as my Lord and Saviour. Thank You for forgiving my sins. Take control of my life for I want to live for You. Make me the kind of person You want me to be. Amen”. But why should I want to pray for these things when I only have your word for it that I do need this Jesus? You want me to ask this man to take control of my life, but why should I want to do that when God Himself gave me free will. This must be Satan, my friend, who is kidding you to give to him what God gave you for yourself. The sort of person this being wants me to be might not be the sort of being that God wants me to be by giving me free will, so I shall certainly not give my life for a pig in a poke. Is this God a used car dealer?
Now you tell me it is easy to get saved, it only takes a minute. This is proof that Satan has kidded you because I remember that it is not at all easy to get to heaven but it is very easy to get to hell. If it is easy to be saved therefore it must mean going to hell, and it is Satanic. You repeat that it is easy, and happens just by saying a prayer, but it is a prayer that requires me to tell lies and so makes me into a liar. That means I cannot get to heaven, unless this heaven of yours is really hell. You say that this “salvation” is a gift, then tell me it is not freely given but requires responses on my part. That means it is not a gift, because gifts are freely given, so you will make me into a liar even if this salvation is a gift, for I must insult God by accepting conditions that He cannot have imposed. The Devil did. So getting my name in this Book of Life cannot be as easy as you say. What is this Book of Life, by the way, and how do you know about it? Who told you all this? Can you believe them? How do you know that it was not the Devil who told you?
As if to prove it you say that Satan will be telling me it all cannot be true, but you do not know that Satan has not told you the opposite. Your family of God cannot be anything but the family of Satan, and if you know differently, then you had better prove it.
You go on telling me things I need to know. Apparently I have to confess Jesus before men, so he will also confess me before his Father in Heaven, according to another citation (Mt 10:32). So, now you are saying it is not as easy as you made out. In other words you were lying when you said it only took one minute. I cannot get this salvation, whatever it is, unless Jesus recommends me to his father in heaven, and he’ll only do that if I confess Jesus before men, whatever that means. You really are a tricky little devil, aren’t you?
You assume that this Jesus is good, but you do not know it. He could be Satan fooling you. Lots of Christians used to think that, at one time, but now the Satanist believers have taken over. If I want to be “saved” I have to spread the word of Satan around and persuade more and more people of the same error. That really is devilish.
Now you tell me that I might not feel any different when I am saved from how I felt before. Maybe that is because I am not any different, but little devils want me to think I am. You say that God can part the sea and move mountains but I cannot expect any proof that you are right myself. I just have to accept what you say. I have to buy a pig in a poke, but will never find out until I am dead whether it really is a pig or a heap of stones or even a poisonous snake! No, this tricky dicky God of yours wants me to act on faith.
Why does God, who is Almighty want me just to believe when this being that made the universe in six days could prove in a second what you are saying. Only the Devil would want anyone to believe without any proof. God could give me proof immediately if He wanted me to believe what you are saying. You are the Devil’s advocate, not God’s. God does not need you. The Devil does. You say all I have to do is, “just trust in Him”, as if He were a three card trickster. You know who is the three card sharp, don’t you?
Now you tell me not to be afraid of God, proving once more that you are not a Christian because your own Christ said the opposite. Who has the power to cast into hell? He should be feared, and that is God’s own decision, according to your own Christian books, so you are lying again. God is to be feared because He has the decision over your supposed eternal life and death. Thinking you will go to heaven because you are so smug is certainly not what any God can have meant.
Now you tell me that God is my best friend, and any good God that exists must be just that, but He cannot be a best friend if He puts conditions on His friendship as your devils have told you. If God is good, then His love is unconditional. Your God is not God! You end up with this, offering more proof that you have been tricked by the Great Trickster: “Never rely on your human reasoning, just act on his word”. So, God gave you a brain, the function of which is to reason, but you—told by the little devils that have taught you—say that God does not want you to use it. Do you know who really wants you to ignore the brain that God gave you? You ought to be able to guess, but perhaps you truly have stopped using your brain.
Next you have to explain why more people don’t get saved, if it’s so easy and fail-proof. First, I would want to know how you are so certain that they are not saved, whatever it is. You talk about this salvation but have no proper definition of it that would allow us to know whether someone is saved or not. Lots of Christians have been wicked. They were Christians, even bishops and TV evangelists, but were wicked. These were not real Christians you will tell me, but everyone accepted they were. So how do we know, and what is the point of it if we cannot know until people are dead? Your reply is:
Satan gets his 2 cents in and convinces people that, “There is no God”, or they are not “good enough” to talk to God. Satan deceives people and twists everything into a pack of lies to suit his own evil desires! Satan is the “Master Manipulator”!
Now, I suggest that you take this seriously and think carefully about it. If it is true, you ought to consider that you have been manipulated yourself, and if you will not, then tell me how you can be sure you have not been.
You next say that even though it is so simple to be “saved” there are millions who just will not accept Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour, adding that it makes no sense that some people would rather risk spending an eternity in Hell than accept Jesus as their Saviour. Again, you have to start using that large but underused organ you have in your head, courtesy of God, since you believe in Him. Consider that there are millions of people who are not as easily beguiled as you are by Satan and all his little helpers. Look in your book and you will find: “For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour”. God here at Isaiah 43:3 is Himself your Saviour, not any man pretending to be God. The very meaning of “Isaiah” is “God is Salvation”, so maybe he had it written to impress a certain truth upon you but you all ignore it, at the instigation of all the little devils romping around you confusing you. In Isaiah and a few other places, God says it over and over, just in case people like you get conned by the devils and start a new religion.
* They forgat God their saviour.Psalms 106:21* I, even I, am the LORD, and beside me there is no saviour.Isaiah 43:11* Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.Isaiah 45:15* Who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.Isaiah 45:21* And all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.Isaiah 49:26* And thou shalt know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.Isaiah 60:16* For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Saviour.Isaiah 63:8* I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.Hosea 13:4
Now, how many examples from your own holy word do you need? Most of these are God Himself speaking directly, not the missionaries of an imposter. He says as clearly as possible in the last citation “thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me”. Why do you reject what is on the face of it, in your own terms. God’s own word and instead accept what mere men, whether Jesus, Paul or whoever say in the so-called New Testament? Look at this too:
But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.Deuteronomy 18:20-22
Jesus prophesied the kingdom of God would arrive in the generation that he and his prophets lived in. That prophesy has not yet been realised even now 2000 years later. It was false, and Jesus was not only not the Son of God, he was a false prophet. What then do you understand by this:
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.Revelation 19:20
You have ignored the brain that you believe God gave you, and have been fooled by the false prophet that wrought miracles. And then you say: It’s such a tragedy… But who is it a tragedy for?
Now you remind us that Jesus will judge us, and then it is too late to be saved. We are told not to judge lest we be judged. Good people do not judge. Is a good God to be any different? Guess who judges. You say that for this judge:
There will be NO more second chances! Satan has claimed the deed to their soul, and that is something that should NEVER happen to anyone! Satan has hardened their hearts with rebellious pride, fear, resentment, and disbelief. Satan has even confused and misled them with false religious, social, political, and scientific issues! The Devil is the “Master of Lies and Deception”, therefore, do NOT believe or follow any of his nonsense!
Do you read your own words? Just read what you are saying, and consider whether you might have been confused in precisely the way you describe. Tell me, if you are sure you have not, how you know.
You say Jesus Christ is the only truth, proving again that you are ignoring the direct word of God, in your own beliefs. How foolish can that be? Moreover, how do you know that Jesus Christ is the only truth? Do you think God would want you to believe this or the Devil? I return again to the fact that you have a brain. It was to allow you to judge for yourself what is true and what is false. Why should God have given you a brain, if He wanted you to believe only one thing? You go on with utter incomprehension saying Satan will fill your head with nonsense, lies, doubt, fear, intimidation, and just not getting it. Who is a bully, do you think, God or Satan? You make God into a bully. Your God allows you to think one thing or be condemned to hell. That is Satanic.
You finish with some more citations from Paul, whom you obviously regard more highly than either God or His supposed son. How do you know that Paul was not Satan? I am supposed to open the door to my heart after you have warned me over and over what a malicious trickster Satan is, and you want me to do it on faith. You are one of Satan’s little tricksters yourself. No God could expect His believers to act like this. If God gave us brains, He expected us to use them. I use mine, and say to you that you are devilish. You are trying to get me to yield up my free will, my independence, my soul to your evil god.
If God Himself has declared that no one can receive eternal salvation and enter the Kingdom of Heaven EXCEPT through His Son Jesus Christ, then I know that the god you are talking about is not God. God said the opposite! He said He was personally, Himself, the only God and Saviour, and your lies do not impress me. You persist with your lies, denied by God Himself:
Only by accepting Jesus Christ, the Son of God, as your personal Saviour and obeying His true teachings can you truly become saved!
And immediately you say:
Don’t allow Satan to lie to you anymore with his nonsense and deception, you must believe the truth—and the truth is Jesus Christ!
Satan, thou protesteth too much. That is the greatest and most wicked deception. Satan is within you getting you to defy God through the threat that to do otherwise is Satanic. What a perfect trick. Worthy of the Devil himself.
“Chose Jesus Christ and be saved forever”, you say, but you will have given up your independence to some god who is plainly not The God. There is only one person it could be in Christian mythology. You have backed the wrong horse, because he was too clever for you and all your Christian friends. Too bad.
I hope you will use the brain you have and learn how to get out of the grips of the Satanic trickster. I doubt that you will. He has already got you trapped. Best wishes and good luck. You’ll need it.
